We met at the Center for International Light Art in Unna, where Christine Sciulli currently presents her site-specific installation FERMENT for the exhibition program HYPERsculptures, open to the public from November 2022 to April 2023. She is one of the participating artists along with Squidsoup, Julius Stahl, Philip Vermeulen, and Giny Vos. After descending 10 Meters into the Center for International Light Art, we enter the dark vaulted exhibition space which FERMENT inhabits. The ambiguous cloud before us seems to be a living organism.